Mystery photos of Brighton and Hove

Photo:Nevill Avenue under construction in 1933?

Nevill Avenue under construction in 1933?

Image reproduced with kind permission of The Regency Society and The James Gray Collection

Photo:The houses in the distance in the 1933 photo above.

The houses in the distance in the 1933 photo above.

Alan Hobden

Photo:The present-day photo, taken on 18 February 2018.

The present-day photo, taken on 18 February 2018.

Alan Hobden

James Gray's Nevill Avenue mystery photo:Part II

By Alan Hobden

Still ruminating on the problem

By 12 February 2018, and unable to keep this mystery out of my mind, I was thinking this photo might have been taken in the area between New Church Road and Portland Road, but the only suitable semis on Streetview were on the north side of Lawrence Road, and even they seemed to be in the wrong position.

Definitely not Nevill Avenue 

A breakthrough came on 16 February, when I was driving up to play golf at the Dyke, and noticed that the trees on the north side of the Devil's Dyke Road had been bent by the west-south-westerly wind in the same way as those in the old photo. This meant that the original photographer had been looking northwards, so Nevill Avenue was definitely out, as it runs from east to west.

Checking the Ordnance Survey

After further research, I discovered that Hogarth Road had been developed after Lawrence Road, so the pair of houses I had in mind, 61 and 63 Lawrence Road, would have stood without anything else on their west side for some time. Kevin Wilsher helpfully told me there had been a brickfield in that area, so there would probably have been a chimney for the brickworks building. A quick look at the Ordnance Survey website confirmed the chimney was in the right position for our photo. (It was situated roughly where St Heliers Avenue now meets Amesbury Crescent.)

A problem of perspective

I went down to Lawrence Road and found Nos 61 and 63, which stand at the western end of the road, next to Hogarth Road. They met all the criteria of the houses in the photo except the side chimneys, but a tell-tale patching of tiles on the side roof of No 63 showed that a side chimney had probably been removed. Some of the adjacent matching houses still have theirs. I had another problem though because, even standing at the most southerly point in Hogarth Road, close to the junction with New Church Road, the pair of semis in Lawrence Road looked far too close when compared to the originals.

A clue from a church

I decided to cross New Church Road and walk towards the seafront. It then dawned on me that the line of New Church Road was actually running across the old photo from left to right. This meant that the photographer must have been looking north up the line of Braemore Road under construction, with a view across what is now New Church Road and onwards up the line of the present-day Hogarth Road, with Nos 61 and 63 Lawrence Road in the distance on the right. A final piece of clinching evidence was the roof of St Philip's Church, New Church Road, the western end of which can be seen on the right-hand skyline at the edge of the 1933 photo.

Evidence of present day view

I took the present-day photo from Braemore Road on 18 February 2018, slightly to the left of the original position in order to avoid the trees, and bring the white-painted 63 Lawrence Road house into the shot in the distance, behind the 30mph speed limit sign. The piles of bricks on both sides of Braemore Road under construction in the old photo have, for over eighty years, been incorporated into the houses in that road, but I have no idea which ones! 

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Eighty five years after it was taken, the mystery has been solved. It is just a shame that Mr Gray is no longer with us to share the discovery of the true location, the east kerb line of Braemore Road, Hove, looking northwards during its construction in 1933.

Read the original discussion here

This page was added on 21/08/2018.
Comments about this page

Excellent detective work Alan.

By Tim Sargeant (22/08/2018)

Nice bit of detective work Alan. Well done. I really needed to take a bit of my own advice when telling people about navigation tricks especially for the South of England and how the trees generally lean to the North East. I totally overlooked that and was concentrating on the buildings and curve of the road. I think the schools construction was started sometime around 1933/4. Another navigation tip for the northern hemisphere you may already know, conifers eg. Leylandiis etc. usually have drying brown foliage to the north due to lack of sunlight.

By Bob from Brighton (22/08/2018)

Thanks Tim and Bob, and for the extra information Bob. Regards, Alan.

By Alan Hobden (26/08/2018)