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Does anyone have any information on 'Scabes Castle'? It appears on old maps of this area on Hartington Road (I think) or possibly on the cemetery site.

By PR (29/03/2007)

I'd also love any information on Scabes Castle. Was it really a castle? From the maps I've seen I think it's location was around the Brighton and Preston Cemetery area.

By Carol Homewood (13/05/2007)

I have an 1895 map of the Scabes Castle Farm estate - showing that it comprised all the land on the north side of Elm Grove from Wellington Road to Tenantry Down Road, including Hartington Road (which stops at the bottom of Bernard Road) and the Brighton and Preston Cemetery. St Helen's Road is already shown leading to the upper gate of the cemetery. However, there is no indication of where a farmhouse once stood, or indeed a castle.

By David Trustram (17/06/2007)

David Trustram - thanks for that, I'd love to see the map. Did you live in Bernard Road? If so I think we spoke a couple of months ago regarding your Mum. If so please could you email me at pete.carol@ntlworld.com

By Carol Homewood (21/06/2007)

I have been trying to find out (unsuccessfully!) about Scabs (Scabes) Castle. I have an ancestor who was working there in 1851, as a servant/coachman. I only know that quite a lot of people were employed there, and it was on the Lewes Road. Any other information would be very welcome.

By Alison (20/08/2007)

My ancestors were living in Scabes Castle Cottage with their baby in the 1841 census (the husband was a Shepherd). At that time, there was another couple living there with their 3 children, (where the husband was an agricultural labourer), another unrelated woman and 2 other children with different names to any of them. In the census it was enumeration district 13, Parish of Brighthelmstone. The previous place listed just before the cottage is in 'Hanover Crescent'. There was something posted on yeoldsussexpages.com about Scabes Castle Cottage in 2001. It says "On some old maps of Brighton there is reference to a place called Scables Castle situated off Bear road towards the east of the cemetary, any clues? The map is the Ordance Survey of 1880. Reply: It was a big house with lodge and a cottage. In 1895 the castle and land were taken over by Brighton and Preston Cemetary. The cemetary is quite hilly and the castle was where the chapel was built".

By Samantha (17/12/2007)

I've got a map, undated but post 1879. The area described by David is sparse apart from two interesting features.
There's a formal looking structure shown as a circle within a square, with a straight track leading to it located where Bernard Road is now.
Then there's a track leading off a little further up Elm Grove, which follows the approximate course of Totland Road and Hartington Road. A smaller building shows approximately where Hartington Place stands today.
There is also a small building where the crematorium now stands.
On my 1899 map, the former structure has shrunk and the path is shown as windy. Many more buildings appear dotted around the estate, with a concentration to the West. By now, just 20 years later, the Bear road building is marked 'Mort. Chap.'

By Tony Ling (05/01/2008)

Thanks for the info. Apologies for mentioning another website. Hope it's ok to do so, but on the James Gray website there is a photo of the Elm Grove area taken from the Roundhill area (I think). It shows Hanover Mill before Bernard Road was built also the Scabes Farm estate around thge Hartington Road area. Amazing photo as I've only ever seen the one taken from the Race Hill looking down Elm Grove. So why was it called Scabes Castle if it was really a farm? I wonder what was there previous to the farm?

By Carol Homewood (15/02/2008)

Scab's Castle was a farm just nestled between the race course and Tennantry Down Road. It's shown clearly on the Brighton Borough Surveyor's map of 1864, I have a copy! I'll scan it later for this section on Elm Grove.

By Peter Groves (09/04/2008)

Scabes Castle farm was a quadrangle of buildings a little to the north of the Hanover windmill (Tony Ling's circle within a square). In the mid-nineteenth century Scabes Castle was farmed by Captain Henry James who was also a director of the nearby Brighton Extra-Mural Cemetery.

By Mike Strong (04/05/2008)

Does anyone know any history on St Helen's Road, Brighton? I was informed recently that the Nos 1/15 were built first. I was wondering why and how do I follow history up on this. I'd love to see old photos of it.

By lisa (22/02/2009)

I live at the start of Wellington Road now in what seems quite an unusual building. Once a very large house now split into two addresses and multiple flats. I'd love to see any old photos or floor plans? 

By Hannah (13/05/2014)

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